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in the obama years in part because of obama politics, is that accurate? >> well, the spike has occurred, really, over the past 20 years and i've seen incomes falling and heard the stat over and over again, how we've got personal wealth falling under obama policies and the other thing you need to remember, too, is that under the obama administration, it's not simply buying a different one for taxpayers, what it's been a huge expansion of the welfare state what. we see now, we've got 80 programs, 77 7 770 billion a year on the welfare programs that's what we're focusing on if we're talking about the size of government. stuart: i want to go back to the poll, 79% think that we should all pay, yes, we should be be paying something. now, it occurs to me that if push comes to shove and i tell somebody who is not currently paying federal income tax, you should, and you will pay federal income tax, you can't get elected, can you? >> well, listen, this is what the romney campaign needs to be more explicit about, what they should be doing after they elected paul ryan as the vice-president nominee, becaus
? >> yeah! >> after four years the recovery that president obama promised is nowhere in sight. he said if he just could borrow a bunch of money and spend it on his friends unemployment would never get above 8%. it has been above 8% for 43 months. we had 23 million americans struggling to find work, 15% of our fellow countrymen and women are in poverty today. president obama, the economy is barely growing, he's run out of ideas and just the other day on tv he said that he can't change washington from the inside. why do we send presidents to washington in the first place? isn't that what we are supposed to do? don't we send them with a message to washington? if he can't change washington we need to change presidents and we need to elect this man the next president of the united states. the choice before us is very clear. we are offering real reforms for a real recovery. we cannot afford four more years of president obama's failed policies. what mitt romney is offering, what we are saying is, here are big ideas, big solutions, that are designed to get people back to work. proven policies to get
will change dramatically because he'll ha the case we cannot afford four more years of barack obama. >> so that first debate is next wednesday in denver and did you know that early voting has for the first time today voting in a swing state, iowa. guess who's there john king. iowa city, iowa. john, are you seeing many early voters where you are? >> reporter: we have seen quite a few of them brooke. we had a camera here in iowa city and des moines earlier today. i wouldn't say it's gangbusters but modest lineseople saying pretty good loins and if you look at the stickers, the t-shirts a lot them are obama voters so you would say score the first day of early voting in iowa for the president and a cautionary note though. there's a strategic difference of the republicans and the democrats. democrats early investing in early voting and i talked to steve grubs saying the democrats won the early voting in 2010 and did quite well in the statewide races and legislative races and there's a difference of how important early voting is and votes in 2010 cast early. 35 states and t
. >> reporter: four years ago she was swept up by the tide of enthusiasm around candidate barack obama. >> i was an obama-mamma. and i was proud to claim that. >> reporter: not so much now? >> not so much. i'm not as enthused. >> reporter: do you think romney could be that change? >> it could be a change. i just don't know if it will be for the better. >> i would say no, i'm not better off now than before. >> reporter: single dad omar lopez came to the u.s. from colombia 13 years ago. now a u.s. citizen, he owns a real estate business in las vegas, surviving one of the most depressed housing markets in the country. he supported president obama four years ago. >> we have to downsize. >> reporter: he too has grown disillusioned. what are governor romney's loopholes will romney close, what will he do about immigration? you're holding out making a decision? >> i'm still holding out, yes. >> reporter: that's why president obama was back in nevada today. both candidates are battling hard for this battleground state. on the ground to get out the vote, carpet bombing the airwaves with political ads.
years ago she was swept up by the tide of enthusiasm around candidate barack obama. >> i was an obama mamma. and i was proud to claim that. >> reporter: not so much now. >> not so much. i'm not as enthused. >> do you think romney could be that change? >> it could be a change. i just don't know if it will be for the better. >> i would say knox, i'm not better off now than before. >> reporter: single dad omar lopez came to the u.s. from colombia 13 years ago. now a u.s. citizen, he owns a real estate business in las vegas, surviving one of the most depressed housing markets in the country. he supported president obama four years ago. >> we have to downsize. >> reporter: he too has grown disillusioned. >> reporter: what are governor romney's strong suits to you? >> his business side of view. and he knows how to make money. and our country needs to start making money. >> reporter: still mitt romney has yet to win this businessman over. lopez wants specifics, which tax loopholes will romney close, what will he do about immigration. >> you're holding out making a decision? >> i'm still hold
this out. i'm tough on national security. >>neil: but last year, president obama was meeting with a host of people. the year before, a healthy host of people. >>guest: they are not saying it is driven by politics. we are a few weeks from re-election. he is trying to show an image of confidence. in addition to "the view," a camera heard the president talking to a security guard that he must have recognized from a previous u.n. speech saying "still rooting for the jets." he is talking about the u.n. talking about football. we will talk about the green bay and what happened last night. >>neil: maybe he can get on the ref thing. >>reporter: he is taking, look, i don't have a care in the world. cruising to re-election. >>neil: you are here. even with all the traffic with the u.n. thing. things have subsideed. i am keeping a close eye on you. this could be a fake rally. thank you, ed. >> it is official. health care premiums are way up. is the president's time up in. >> we will work with you to lower your premiums by $2,500 per family per year. we will not wait 20 years from now to do it or ten
younger voters, who went overwhelmingly for mr. obama in 2008, but who are proving more elusive this year. i traveled to the columbus area this past weekend ahead of the candidates to find out just how elusive. >> fired up! ready to go! >> woodruff: ohio state university students about to head out from an obama campaign office to register voters, yell a familiar refrain. >> fired up! ready to go! >> woodruff: they are a coveted voting block for the president, in this fiercely contested swing state. four years ago, mr. obama won 18- to 29-year-olds nationwide by 66% to 32%. a margin so large, young people were credited with putting him over the top in several key states. >> are you registered to vote? >> woodruff: surveys suggest he's sure to capture the majority of the youngest voter block again. but after four years of watching the president grapple with the realities of governing, they're not expected to give him another two-to-one win. 18-year-old freshman noel fisher says getting his peers to vote for president obama in 2012 is crucial. >> i would say is the biggest the largest split
state. four years ago, mr. obama won 18- to 29-year-olds nationwide by 66% to 32%. a margin so large, young people were credited with putting him over the top in several key states. >> are you registered to vote? >> woodruff: surveys suggest he's sure to capture the majority of the youngest voter block again. but after four years of watching the president grapple with the realities of governing, they're not expected to give him another two-to-one win. 18-year-old freshman noel fisher says getting his peers to vote for president obama in 2012 is crucial. >> i would say is the biggest the largest split between ideology between the republican candidate and the democratic candidate the republicans right now are trending extreme conservative and it's just i don't think we have room for any of those extremes in our nation >> woodruff: but for all the enthusiasm of these obama volunteers, national surveys of young voters show a more complex picture. john della volpe is director of polling for harvard's institute of politics. >> it's almost night and day judy. you know whereas young people f
narrative that president obama should first two years because he had a super majority. that is a filibuster proof 60 or more senate seats, 60 or more democrats sitting in the chairs, which allows one party to pass legislation without votes from the other. don't forget, a president, the president needed a super majority because of the republicans unprecedented use of the filibuster as an obstruction tactic. in fact, they have filibustered over 400 times in this past session. so here's the deal. the real deal. there actually was no two year super majority for the president, and this time line shows the facts. president obama was sworn in on january 20, 2009. he was sworn in. and that obviously meant that he was sworn in with a group of senators, 58 of them to support his agenda, 58. he should have had 59, but republicans democratic senator al franken's election in minnesota. he didn't get seated for seven months, so the president's cause was helped in april, when pennsylvania's republican senatorar lynn specter switched parties, giving the president 59 votes, still a vote shy of that super ma
.s. recognition of statehood. that is something obama has not received enough credit for. within a year, we have both a jewish congresspersons, one republican and one democrat saying opposite things. your party would do better in the white house for israel. >> i certainly believe so. it is a very critical period. small things can mean an awful lot when the president has not been to israel, snubs the prime minister, has made outrageous claims. these have consequences. i think some of the arab states right now -- these are big blunders. >> you mean the boldest of the arab states? >> that daylight between israel and the united states. this is an administration of a great deal of rhetoric. let's look to the actions. >> that is an interesting point, congressman. there are people that say, it doesn't matter if there are nice photo ops. but does it matter what president obama is eating in jerusalem? >> it does matter. >> would you measure military support with the diplomatic aid? he may not love is real. >> i am not asking obama if he loves it, if he believes it is in the best interests of the united s
the last four years, it's a muddy verdict. bush was president during the financial melt down, the obama team has turned that around pretty well. >> and david brooks thinks he knows a moderate republican when he sees one. and that mitt romney is faking it when he tries to sell right wing extremism. >> mitt romney does not have the passion for the stuff he's talking about. he's a problem sofr. i think he's a nonideological person. and he's faking it. >> rush limbaugh who pretty much hates everything that david brooks has to say, reacted this way to david brooks on his radio show today. >> ideological age that romney can't do it? isn't that why you told us he would be the best nominee? am i wrong -- am i missing something here? isn't that why brooks and others told us we had to nominate romney precisely because he wasn't ideological and that would be necessary to get the independence. if romney would go ideological in explaining obama, it would help. >> a new political national poll of likely voters shows president obama leading mitt romney by 3 points. tonight nate silver fraufts that on
here. do you want four more years of obama? do you think this is the right direction? or do you think we need something new? i think a campaign which made that case clearly enough would carry ohio and florida by big margins. >> mitt romney was in westerville, ohio, today. i want to play a little clip of part of something he said and get your reaction to it. listen. >> okay. >> i want to bring the rates down. by the way, don't be expecting a huge cut in taxes because i'm also going to lower deductions and exemptions. >> so he's trying to combine if i take it right the tax and the deficit argument. do you think that's a little too complicated for voters? do you think that resonates? >> no, i don't think it resonates. if you go back and watch the great winning campaigns. they have clear, vivid, explicit sense of direction for the future. the governor's campaigning in ohio. ohio's a state that has enormous opportunity in energy. we now estimate for example that there may be 5 billion barrels of oil in the state of ohio. virtually the eastern two-thirds of the state has natural gas. the ob
to president obama for two years. >> no one in the united states, you know, less in japan and i hope in china wants to see shots fired over three or four uninhabited rocks in the east china sea. as long as we're concentrating on the sovereignty issue, we're probably not going to get anywhere. on the other hand, the resource issues can be addressed separately, without regard to sovereignty. >> bader says the u.s. government doesn't intend to mediate. he called on both sides to refrain from any action that could be considered a provocation. he argued the violent protests in china against japan's nationalization of the islands were counterproductive, unwise, and damaging to china itself. >> it made china look like an aggrieved third-world country that was not acting like an international community. >> japanese leaders say their claim to the senkaku islands dates back to 1895. chinese officials maintain their country was forced to give up the territory after losing the sino-japanese war. >>> the philippines and vietnam have appealed to the international community for a peaceful and legal resoluti
. >> we cannot afford four more years of barack obama. we're not going to have four more years of barack obama. >> the battle for the white house zeros in on ohio. >> president obama and mitt romney will be in the same state at the same time. >> no republican has won the white house without winning the buckeye state. >> and ahmadinejad addresses the united nations today. >> israel believes you want to destroy them. you said you want to drive them from the face of the earth. it's a very serious question. >> football fans are still fumes over that botched call. >> the touchdown held around the world. >> some are calling it the worst call in the nfl history since the black eyed peas were asked to sing the super bowl. >> andy williams has died. >>> powerful waves create an intreadble scene in a paddle boat race. >> performance and regulations for self-driving cars. >>> would you say he is frugile or cheap. >> the seahawks were robbed of a win -- actually the packers were robbed. thank you for whoever wrote that. >> allen, you're late. >> i don't care. i had a [ bleep ] night last night. >>>
set. he's a failure, the family income has gone down $4,000 in 3 1/2 years under obama compared to $2,000 under george w. in eight years. >> because of that family income, that's not a made up number, that's a government number. i think both of these guys should be looking for permanent middle class tax cuts. permanent middle class tax cuts so that take-home pay will go up. i'll give you the last word. >> i found myself strangely agreeing with your plan to cut the middle class and take away the deductions and keep tax rates for people who make a lot of money like you and i fairly high. i think that makes abundant good sense. but we're forgetting one thing. the biggest challenge may be even more than anything is our debt and our deficit. and i think with governor romney and paul ryan figured out was they can't give $5 trillion worth of tax cuts and still eat into the deficit, which i think is our biggest national problem. >> i think -- >> you're right. he might be able to do it. he might be able to do it if they did your plan. >> i'm telling you. you know, you were a good tax break gov
doubled our spending under george bush. we continue to add during the obama years, but had to deal with the iraq and afghanistan wars and the bush tax caps -- cuts that were never paid for. the support president obama as are commanded -- commander in chief? do you believe he is the united states citizen? you accept the fact the columns of the christian? >>-- he called himself a christian? >> that was three questions. i will say, of course barack obama is our commander in chief. i wish he were a stronger commander in chief. >> to you believe in the? >> let him finish, please. you posed the question. >> i wish he were a stronger commander in chief. in recent weeks, we saw the tragedy of the assassination of -- >> let him finish. >> ok. >> they are simple questions. >> i.n.d. stand you would like to put meat on the cross examination stage. if you would like a -- >> i'll give you about 20 seconds, then we will move on. >> i wish she were a stronger commander in chief. the last few weeks, we saw our ambassador to libya assassinated in an organized action by al qaeda on september 11. his
done before. status quo has not worked. we cannot afford four more years of president obama of the we will not have four more years of president obama. his plan and his approach says fundamentally that government knows better than you how to live your life, how to pick winners and losers, how to choose companies that can be successful and products that have a future. that a group of bureaucrats, real smart people, working hard -- they are good people who work in washington -- he has a view they know better than free people. he will put them in the most important or one of the most important relationships you have. that is the relationship between you and your doctor. he will put government between this if he has his way. he wants a government that is more and more expansive. do you know how much money he spent in one year putting money into companies that he thought had a bright future? green companies. he spent $90 billion and sent to companies in many cases, that remain owned by campaign contributors of his. this is a vision of government that is entirely foreign to anything this na
to america. ur share of obama's debt is over 50 thousand dollars, and it grows every day. obama's policies are making it harder on women. the poverty rate for women -- the highest in 17 years. more women are unemployed under president obama. more than five and a half miion women can't find work. that's owhat obama's policies have done for women. welcome, daughter. [ romney ] i'mt mitt romney and i approve this message. captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- >> live and in hd, this is abc 7 breaking news. >> good evening. breaking news tonight. montgomery county. newschopper 7 right now rabe's cvs in gaithersburg. this is where a man walked into a store when a man was shot. he was shot multiple times and was rushed to the hospital. it is not sure where the shooting took place. an investigation is underway. we will keep you posted. we are on storm watch tonight. some late night showers. this is really the start of some wet weather out there. abc 7 senior meteorologist bob ryan will tell us. >> they were way out in west virgi
of the year, but they will not warn the employees of impeding li offs as it is legally retired to today, obama labor department told lockheed they do not need to abide by the law. telling lockheed it will cover potential legal costs if they incur any benpality, obama administration. clearly does not want those layoff notices delivered just days before the election. >> president obama downplaying expectations for wednesday's debate. saying he is an okay debater, according to a new washington post abc news poll, 55 percent of likely voters think that president will win this first debate, and 41% think that romney will win. joining me now, ed klein, author of "new york times" best seller "the amateur." great to see you, this is cute, the downplay, one of these, i can't think of another moment of modesty on the part of this president other than this example of trying to manage expectations. >> the golden-floated orator is bumbling,. lou: the idea he is such a heavy favorite to win the debate, that has to work in governor romney's favor. >> almost 6 out of 10 americans think that obama will take th
to what they knew was a security issue on 9/11, put that together. lou: put your 5-year-old on notice, there is likely to be a openingoon, mike baker thank you. >> thank you. lou: much more, president obama's home state public employees pensions bleeding illinois dry. their governor crying for help. would a second obama ter term ma bail out for illinois? we take a look. >> president headlines vegas as he prepares for the first presidential debate. >> you may have heard, in a few days my opponent in this elect, and i are having a debate, i am looking forward to it. it. i. lou: ed klein author of best selling book, the amateur, on the obama administration, here this is america. we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're one of them people who gets heartburn and then treats day afr day... block the acid with prilosec otc and don't get heartburn in the first place! [ male announcer ] e pill eachmorning. 24 hours. zero heartbur lou: the president holed up in las vegas prepatiencing for thk- preparing for first debate on wednesday. what is going on with t
policy. >> you realize this year's worse than last year, right? >> i know you're an obama insider. >> no, i'm an outsider. >> does president obama understand the federal reserve? the reason i ask is does he know what bernanke's doing? the reason i ask this is that most people only recognize a third to a half of the intelligence reports. >> he's too good for that. most people have reported that he's only gotten and he got it online through his ipad. do you think he understands, do you really think he understands what's going on in the federal reserve? >> i do. any about the operations of the white house, if i get a little kind of in the weeds with you guys here. >> not too much. >> they have a council of economic advisors, they've got the domestic policy council. is obama really going to be able to articulate a defense on fiscal policy. i haven't heard him give any speech where he seems to be in the weeds on this. >> i thought he was a tough campaign strategist. >> now, look, if he takes my advice, which he won't do. i would talk about the following. i have a bill that all kinds of econom
determine the outcome here. barack obama's victory here in north carolina four years ago was the first by a democrat since 1976. it was helped in large part by a huge turnout by african-americans, a whooping 72%, well above the national average. but his win here was his slimmest margin in the country. a mere 14,000 votes. it looks like he'll have to do as well or better among blacks and other voters in this deeply divided state. the task is made harder by the hit north carolina took in the recession. unemployment was 9.7%, fifth highest in the country. the rate for african-americans is nearly double. and the state has seen enormous change. demographically with the reverse migration of blacks returning and an influx of hispanics and other new residents. and economically. u.n.c. professor and long time political reporter says north carolina is moving in two directions at once >> the up escalator in this state is the economic diversification into higher-wage, higher-skill, research and development, biotechnology. the down escalator is the collapse of the traditional industries of textiles
, the worst is iran with nuclear weapons. bill, where are we? four years, obama has been talking. four years the iranians have it happened to build -- >> bill: no doubt about it. they thumbed their nose at him. >> north korea route. >> colonel hunt, i certainly understand that model, but iran is different. north korea doesn't threaten the world economy, the world oil supplies. they weren't led by meeseianic nut cases. they didn't have this -- >> ralph, you're -- >> bill: the north korea had a restraining agent in that sense does to this day and that's china. there is no restraining agent on iran at all. none. >> but guy, iran has hezbollah and hamas, if they uncork them, hezbollah in lebanon and hamas in palestine and float one of their three submarines in the strait of arrest had you seen, you have real problems. my point is that if you bomb, if the israelis go to bomb, there is no success. the only way to get at those bunkers is nuclear bunker busters and nobody is going to throw nukes at iran. my point is there is so much more to do against iran than talk about -- >> bill: look, you can c
million to defeat president obama and the democrats this year. president obama and republican challenger mitt romney each campaign thursday in the hotly contested battleground state of virginia. both candidates attempted to court virginia's large population of military voters. in an address in the military town of virginia beach, obama called for what he termed "economic patriotism." >> during the campaign season you hear a lot about patriotism. well, you know what? it is time for an economic patriotism. in economic patriotism rooted in the belief that growing our economy begins with a strong and thriving middle class. >> mitt romney spoke at an american legion hall in springfield, virginia, not far from the pentagon. romney criticized obama over potential defense cuts and vowed to maintain u.s. military power. >> we're going to make sure to restore the principles this nation was built upon a freedom and opportunity and restore our economy and put people back to work, get rising take-home pay again. we're going to make sure we of the military that a second to none. i will do those things
missing opinions. he talks about america and another four years with obama. we look at how it is run the 2012 campaign how it is conducting foreign policy how it paralyzed economic growth and solutions being offered by the romney, ryan ticket and do they have the country's answers? because the donald has been less than silent on the abysmal obama record he like so many on the right have been subjected to ridicule by the president and his team out of chicago. >> can the president do more to show leadership on being transparent with regard to documents, records, his own background that's another underlying theme the campaigns are going at. >> are you talking about donald trump? >> i know he has been taking flack lately but no one is happier no one is prouder to put this birth certificate record to rest than the doll nald. >> looking to continue to bring up is college records. >> the donald trump question which i think he is the one who brings it up the most. >> last year at this time on this very weak end we finally delivered justice to one of the world's most notorious individuals. (a
done before, the status quo has not worked. we cannot afford four more years of barack obama. we're not going to have four more years of barack obama. >> wednesday, president obama and mitt romney meet in their first presidential debate. the news hour's jim lehrer moderates from the university of denver. watch and engage with c-span, including our live debate preview at 7:00 p.m. eastern, the debate at 9:00, and post-debate, your reactions, calls, and emails and tweets. follow our live coverage on c-span, c-span radio, and online at c-span.org. >> september 11, 2001, was a day that changed my life forever. it changed america's life. i'm going to go through a power point presentation, which is going to outline the account, the historical account of the attack as things happened, as things transpired that day. it gets pretty intense. a lot of things happened very quickly. i'm going to do my best not to ramble on and go too fast, but i would ask to you sit back, clear your mind, put yourself in that room, and you'll get a real sense of what it was like to be at the top of the food c
barnes, walter. caller: thank you for taking my call. i voted for president obama four years ago. i am an independent. i don't care what the label is. i voted for president obama because he said george bush was unpatriotic for having an $8 trillion debt. four years later, he is not kept his promise. didn't do what he has promised. ot.ill give mitt romney a sh they get so brutally nasty and say -- the republicans want dirty air and dirty water. it is terrible stuff. most americans if you ask them basic questions, they don't have a clue. both sides people drown by these slogans. obama was saying hope and change. let's be part of history and led a black man become president. we will go from there. host: i wanted to follow-up on his comment by showing an ad from the romney campaign that deals with job loss and cuts in virginia. here's a look. [video clip] >> this president cannot tell us you're better off than when he took office. >> his defense cuts threaten over 130,000. the romney plan -- create over 340,000 jobs for virginia. host: more of your take on the economic message by mitt romn
know president obama won four years ago here. if he can't do that, it's going to be very tough. these are states that romney has to flip back to the republican column if he wants to be elected president. >> jim, one of the things i noticed, too, that's different here, virginia's unemployment rate is much lower than the national average. you're talking about a national average of over more than 8%, virginia hovering in the 5% range or so. is his message of creating more jobs. is that really going to resonate in virginia? >> reporter: that is why i think, suzanne, we heard him talking about defense jobs. as he was putting it here a few moments ago, if the sequestration cuts happen -- you hear it here in the local media. while the economy is doing quite well, better than the national average. we heard the governor of this state, bob mcdonnell, tout this state's economy even at the republican convention, there are worries about defense cuts and what that would mean to the local economy. that's why i think you heard mitt romney tailoring his message to that particular issue. this is
cannot afford four more years of barack obama. we're not going to have four more years of barack obama. his plan and his approach says fundamentally that government knows better than you how to live your life, how to pick winners and losers, how to choose companies that can be successful and products that have a future, the government, that a group of bureaucrats of real smart people, working hard, they're good people who work in washington, but he has this view that somehow they know better than free people. so he's going to put them in the most important -- or one of the most important relationships that you have, that's the relationship between you and your doctor. he's going to put government between there if he has his way. he wants a government that is more and more expensive and intrusive. do you know how much money he spent in one year, putting money into companies that he thought had a bright future, green companies. he spent $90 billion, $90 billion. and sent it into companies that in many cases that were owned by campaign contributors of his. >> you hear the boos in the crow
, as we pointed out, are from that statement by the candid obama some five years ago, really. it just makes no sense, what is happening here that suddenly the campaign takes priority over the business of state. >> well -- lou: and there is no comment in the mainstream media. >> well, the mainstream media has totally brushed anything this president has done a side of what is becoming more and more clear, this president's policies on the economy have failed and failed miserably. if he is reelected we will have four more years. now it is becoming more and more clear that his foreign policy is crumbling around the world, and is not just the middle east. people are missile defense systems out of europe to appease russians. they spend $700 billion more on defense. he has tried to appease the chinese. they are expanding their sovereignty claims a round the world. the middle east policy is crumbling around it. america needs leaders. right now the only opportunity we will have is president romney. i hope you will see that. lou: thank you for being here. >> thank you. good to be with you. lou:
, 45% of likely machine voters believe u.s. muslim relations are worse now than four years ago. just 18% say relations are better. that would seem to indicate a failure in the obama foreign policy. yet the president will point to the did he say mation of al-qaeda and the killing of bin laden to persuade voters he is not soft on the jihad. to be fair to president obama, opinions about his muslim outreach are inconclusive at this point. most americans don't want war with iran because that would send oil prices and possibly lead to world war 3. there is no way on this earth that israel is going to allow iran to develop a nuclear weapon. the israelis will attack the iranians. they will attack. it's just a matter of when. so americans must decide which presidential candidate can better manage the situation. things have not changed in iran since mr. obama took office, except the iranians are further down the road to development of the nuclear weapons. governor romney says he would get tougher with the iranians by supporting israel to a greater ex tents 6789 it's an incredibly difficult situat
. israel is threatened. what does obama have to show for four years? >> bill: isn't the only other alternative war? a military strike? doesn't seem to be anything else that he's not doing, although i do have one thing in the back of my mind, but i'm going to hold it back. go. >> nobody wants war in the persian gulf. but it looks increasingly like it is going to happen because we have been -- >> bill: would you say this is the time now to make it happen? >> no. let me make one thing very clear. there are no good alternatives in the persian gulf but the worst possible alternative is that iran would nuclear weapons not only because of the threat to israel -- >> bill: that's not worse -- you're saying that war is better than allowing iran to have a nuke? war is better? >> i think a well executed war thoroughly planned and determined would be better for the world than iran with nuclear weapons. >> bill: looking at iran and afghanistan, yie. kirsten, i'm sure you disagree. but you need to be precise in your disagreement. there is no doubt that president obama has not gotten anywhere with
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